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Friday Bloody Friday

by D.R. HANEY
LOS ANGELES
05 January 2010

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When I was about to publish my novel, Banned for Life, I had a number of exchanges with Jonathan Evison, whose counsel I sought with regard to promotion, among other matters. He was aware of certain aspects of my past, and he advised me to be forthcoming about them, since to do otherwise, he said, would amount to breaking faith with readers.

Jonathan is a wise man, but I regarded Banned as my child, and so wanted to shield it from the sins of its father. I imagined dismissive reviews based less on the book and more on my rap sheet, as well as sneering remarks posted on message boards. Paranoia? But I’ve been the target of such remarks, and I wanted to give Banned a running start before falling on my sword.

Now, I figure, the time has come. Banned has barely been noticed since it appeared more than six months ago, and I’ve tested the waters with friends made since, and none have responded as feared.

So ready the rotting fruit, as St. Francis of Assisi might have said before stripping in public, and cue the flashback ripple effect, or anyway a row of asterisks.

*****

A little over twenty years ago, I was an actor living in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. There weren’t many actors living in Williamsburg at the time, but I considered myself an unusual case: a hip kid (I would never have copped to being a “hipster”), as opposed to my colleagues, who overwhelmingly struck me as squares. The most happening neighborhood in New York was the Lower East Side, and that’s where I was usually found, raising hell with the likes of my friend Morphine, whose nickname owed (I forget how) to his slamdancing days at punk clubs such as A7. I studied with Mira Rostova, a creased but still-beautiful Russian who’d famously coached Montgomery Clift, and did a lot of fringe theater—a far-out staging of Richard II, for instance, in which the actors, cast in multiple roles, carried leather masks to designate which role was being played. You’d have to ask the director why we carried the masks instead of wearing them. I never did understand.

One spring night, recovering at home after dropping acid with Morphine, I got a call from a movie director who wanted to know if I could fly immediately to L.A. to star in a Roger Corman movie. I’d appeared in one of the director’s student shorts at NYU, and Corman had given him carte blanche in the casting department. The movie, I was told, had no screenplay, even though production was slated to begin in a couple of days. Corman, the legendary, so-called King of the Bs, was known for rushing projects into production in order to make use of standing sets at his converted-lumberyard studio. No screenplay? Take the weekend to write one and report to the set first thing Monday.

Well, of course I boarded a plane for L.A., where I was met at the airport by a production assistant whose car promptly broke down on the freeway. A symbol of things to come? Yes, it would seem. This was obviously before cell phones, so we hiked till we found a pay phone, after which another production assistant drove us to Roger Corman’s office. I’d seen Corman interviewed many times on television, and knew he’d launched, among others, Jack Nicholson and Robert DeNiro. And I hoped to be next. I resolved to have as much input as possible in the way my part was written.

Here I’d like to note that I was a serious, if uncredentialed, student of literature. I read so much, in fact, that one of my exes used to complain that I spent all my money on booze and books, which inconveniently couldn’t be bought at the same locations. At any rate, I left Roger’s office for a Mexican restaurant with the director and the screenwriter, and within a few hours I’d arranged to have the screenwriter fired. He was too plodding, too conventional, and none of his ideas jibed with mine. The director and I collaborated on the screenplay together—or we did before I took over the writing alone. It helped, of course, that Roger liked me. I was told by one of his assistants that I put him in mind of himself as a younger man. I was certainly ambitious, as my ruthless behavior indicates.

One day, between takes on the set, Roger announced that he wanted me to write another screenplay for him. I wasn’t interested. I wanted to establish myself as an actor, not a writer, and people have a terrible way of insisting that you’re one thing or the other. Renaissance men are anachronistic. We live, and have for some time, in an age of specialization.

But people told me I was being foolish. This was a great opportunity, they said. I had a chance to earn my keep by writing movies—a chance denied so many others. I decided to go forward, thinking I could create more parts for myself, not realizing that most directors would cast anyone but the writer. An old Hollywood saying applies: A screenwriter on a set is like a whore sticking around for breakfast.

So I remained in L.A. after production wrapped, sniffing opportunity, and took an apartment on Beachwood Drive, in the shadow of the Hollywood sign. My driver’s license had lapsed while I was living in New York, so I walked everywhere; and since I couldn’t yet afford a phone, I’d head numerous times daily to a pay phone outside the Beachwood Market. And it was there, on that corner, on that phone, that I learned that someone at Paramount, based on fast-traveling reports of my work at Corman, wanted to hear my ideas for the latest Friday the 13th sequel.

*****

If I was a snob about books—and I was: no guilty pleasures—I was equally snobby about films. In New York I haunted the art houses, where I’d sometimes tangle with other snobs, arguing the merits of this auteur over that one. Horror movies, which I’d liked to the age of fifteen or thereabouts, were irrelevant as far as I was concerned; so I was only dimly aware of the Friday the 13th phenomenon, which seemed to involve witless fornicators being subjected to unsought surgery by a hulking mute in a hockey mask. No thanks.

Still, never thinking I’d get the job, I rented every Friday movie and watched them on a neighbor’s VCR. I’d been told that the Friday producers had wanted Jason Vorhees, the hulking mute, to square off in the seventh Friday with Freddy Krueger, the razor-fingered pickle of the Nightmare on Elm Street series, and though the deal had (for the moment) fallen through, a variation was clearly desired. I had the formula down by the end of Part 2 at least, and I walked to the Beachwood Market pay phone and called the Friday development person and pitched my ideas. No, she said to each one. Uh-uh. No, that’s not for us. On the phone she struck me as a mythical creature incredibly proving to be real: the hard-as-nails, bottom-line Hollywood exec, as encapsulated in the back-cover copy of airport novels. I shuddered at the idea of having to deal with more of her kind. I never had in New York, aside from casting directors, who on occasion revealed traces of mammalian warmth.

Then I came to an idea she liked. She proposed that we meet, and a few days later I walked to her office on the Paramount lot, where I waited while she finished her meeting with another writer: a lauded playwright who was working on a script for a drama featuring Keanu Reeves, whose star was just starting to unaccountably rise. The furniture in the office was universally white. The receptionist, waitress-like, offered me a bottle of water. I watched the playwright leave in a bit of a huff, and the development person at last emerged to welcome me.

“He’s annoyed,” she said of the playwright, “because we told him to change the script, and now we told him to change it all back.” She laughed. In person she didn’t seem hard at all, but her laughter was unsettling. “Aren’t my whims amusing?” it seemed to say. “Today I want it in red, and tomorrow I’ll want it in green, and who knows how I’ll want it the day after that?”

In fact, once the job was mine, she would change her mind repeatedly. By then I’d moved to a house in Silver Lake, where I camped on the porch, and when I wasn’t writing, I’d drink with friends, usually sleeping late and often woken by a call from Paramount. Can you come over and meet with us? We’re not happy with the last draft. I was working on two scripts at the time—the second was for Roger—but I didn’t have a computer and the Friday people did, and they wanted new drafts immediately. This meant that after the meeting, which involved sheaves of detailed notes, I’d be extradited to a trailer on the lot, where I was expected to produce a page-one rewrite by the start of the following workday. Then I’d return home and crash and, two or so days later, get another call from Paramount, and head with a hangover to the lot and bang out another draft.

Some nights, treating myself to a break, I would roam the sleeping lot, imagining the greats who might have worked on this or that stage. W. C. Fields, the Marx Brothers, Marlene Dietrich, Carole Lombard, Gary Cooper, Rudolph Valentino, Edward G. Robinson, Mae West, Barbara Stanwyck, William Holden: all made movies at Paramount. Of course, nowadays people don’t care about any of them. Not that they cared much in the late eighties.

I also read letters from Friday fans, which were tacked to the bulletin board in the trailer where I worked, and struck up a correspondence with an Ohio teenager whose letter was precociously clever. I thought he’d appreciate hearing from the writer of the forthcoming sequel, but he didn’t—not particularly—and the correspondence soon lapsed. Still other letters, undisplayed, were described to me as cries for help from kids claiming to have been permanently traumatized by Jason Vorhees. I could sympathize, having endured panic attacks in my teens that were induced, in part, by violent movies. Now I was writing one. Go figure.

*****

I probably produced around fifteen drafts for Friday the 13th Part VII, when I was contracted for four. My agent decided I should get more money and contacted the producers, who responded by hiring another writer for the final tweaks. This writer, whom I never met, used a pseudonym, which I should’ve done also. That I didn’t is something of a mystery to me. I think I had an idea that a pseudonym would be dishonest and cowardly. Plus I didn’t take the movie at all seriously, and figured my amused attitude toward it would be shared by others. We all do silly things, I thought, especially in our salad days. Surely people would cut me slack.

So I stupidly put my name on the movie, and only started using a pseudonym later, after the Internet Movie Database had oozed from the river Styx and my every embarrassing credit could be, and was, instantly accessed. The years after Friday weren’t kind ones. I was nearly killed when a car mowed me down in a Hollywood crosswalk, and had to have numerous surgeries to reconstruct an arm and leg, all of which triggered the return of the panic attacks that scrambled my brain as a kid. I was dumped by my agent and, unable to find another, relied on word of mouth for work, and some of the results made Friday look like Citizen Kane. I continued to act, but movies in general had gotten so bad, and my so-called writing career had indeed hurt my prospects as an actor: Are you a writer who acts, or an actor who writes? I felt more and more like an interloper—certainly a renegade. I barely socialized with industry people. I went underground, living as I had in New York, hanging with musicians and bohemians of all stripes, and almost never mentioned how I paid the rent.

Yet people knew. Movies would turn up on TV, prompting shocked phone calls: Why didn’t you tell me you were an actor? I wasn’t so easily Googled, since my new friends knew me by the nickname I’d acquired after the accident (Duke, short for Iron Duke, which refers to the titanium that holds my shattered limbs together), but they learned that I was a screenwriter as well as an actor; I was never sure how. I was friendly with …And You Know Us by the Trail of Dead, for instance, a band that appears in Banned for Life, and while they were on tour in Australia, they posted a message at their Yahoo group, to which I belonged, asking which Friday movie I’d written. This led to a flurry of messages from other group members. Did you write the sleeping-bag kill? My God, that’s my favorite Friday kill ever! I was for a fact responsible for that scene, but I hadn’t realized it had become fairly iconic.

Yet, elsewhere on the Internet, some geek accused me of ripping it off from a movie unknown to me. I was often attacked online, especially after I gave a couple of interviews in which I spoke about my Friday experience in appropriately negative terms. Somebody said I should die for that—“with a red-hot poker up [my] ass.” Still others, on seeing some other horrible movie I’d done because I was broke, would spare the director (and producer and cast and so on) and blame me for the movie, based on my de facto resume at the IMDb. It had to be my fault, what with stuff I’d done. But I was only doing what I was told to do—what I had to do in order to get paid. I probably would’ve been better off with a so-called real job, but I was an exceedingly poor candidate for one after being out of the market for so long. Funds would dwindle, and I’d scramble for a writing job before my landlords hit me with a Pay Or Quit notice, and I always managed to find one—or I did until recently. I’ve now written more than twenty feature-length produced screenplays, which is quite a record, though I’m not proud of it, and a few of the movies turned out okay. The best of the lot may be Life Among the Cannibals, a black comedy in which I had a prominent role as a serial killer, but it never received any distribution in the U.S. (It did, however—note to Zara Potts and Simon Smithson—Down Under.)

As Brando, whose heir I once aspired to be, said in On the Waterfront: I could’ve been a contender. Instead of a bum. Which is what I am.

*****

Well, perhaps not entirely. In 2000, while on location for a film in Belgrade, I came up with the idea for Banned for Life, and later moved to Belgrade to write it, returning to the States with a first draft. Then, for years, I refined and polished it, working harder than I ever had at anything, because I hoped to establish, once and for all, that I did have talent; that I’d been badly served by the movies; that I deserved to be taken seriously.

Ironically, I didn’t feel I could put my name on it. I’d destroyed my name, or so I thought. At the same time, it would’ve killed me to use a pseudonym. How could I use a false name on a work so close to my heart?

Some suggested that I call myself Duke Haney, but my nickname could be learned at the IMDb. So, in the end, I became D. R. Haney; and to further distance myself from my actor-screenwriter identity, I submitted a report of my death (by heroin overdose) to the IMDb. They required proof, so I doctored my Wikipedia bio, which was soon corrected by a meddling stranger. Enraged, I deleted the bio, but yet another meddling stranger restored it. I don’t know why I have a Wikipedia bio in the first place. I don’t warrant one.

In any case, the IMDb never reported me as dead. I hate the IMDb. It’s full of inaccuracies—an ex-girlfriend, for instance, is erroneously said there to be the daughter of Bobby Kennedy—but the world regards it as the authority. Meanwhile, this all goes to show how desperate I was to hide my past.

But no more. I’ve done what I’ve done. And now I’m free to tell stories I couldn’t tell before, since to do so would be to give myself away. And I am bloody well going to tell them.

Oh, yes. There’s much to tell.

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D.R. Haney D. R. HANEY was born and raised in Virginia, the son of an Angus beef farmer. In his teens, he moved to New York City, where he studied acting and supported himself through the usual odd jobs, from Wall Street waiter to parcel-wrapper to telephone pitchman.

Relocating to Los Angeles to headline a film for legendary producer Roger Corman, Haney soon found himself with a second, unsought career as a screenwriter. He also began to contribute to zines and alt-weeklies, reflecting his growing participation in the underground music scene. His interest in music, coupled with the consequences of a life-altering car accident, resulted in Banned for Life, a novel about punk rock that was published in May 2009 by And/Or Press.

Haney continues to act on occasion (recently, for example, in Jennifer Lynch’s Surveillance), meanwhile working whenever time allows on a novel tentatively entitled Look This Way. Friends know him as Duke, short for Iron Duke, a nickname he acquired after the aforementioned accident.

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Comment by Greg Olear
2010-01-05 11:06:55

In a word, masterful. The pictures are great, too.

How does it feel to be liberated?

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 11:24:36

Well, I’m at least happy to have finally posted something for the first time in what feels like ages.

I owe you a phone call. Things didn’t unfold yesterday evening as expected, though there’s no interesting story involved.

And now to head to my psychic jumpy castle. Can I phone Prue for support if I suffer an injury?

Comment by Greg Olear
2010-01-05 11:58:53

Prue is, in general, overly concerned with people being sick. She likes to take care of people. So I’m sure she’d be happy to take your call.

No worries about the call — we watched “Heroes,” which was comically awful last night.

You know this already, but for the sake of the comment board, it’s impressive to go to Hollywood and earn a living writing screenplays, no matter what kind they are. Hella cool, as Erika says.

G

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Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 13:37:53

Tell Prue to be on standby in a few hours.

Only a fellow writer, and the rare onlooker, would understand how hard it is to make a living as a screenwriter. That’s fine. There’s much I don’t get about the way other people earn their keep. But Everyman seems to think he knows who’s to blame for why a movie is bad, and I can promise you that it’s almost never the committee-guided writer. Everyman has it backward: “Somebody oughta tell them screenwriters out…” etc.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 14:46:14

Typo at the end, I just notice. Hope the meaning wasn’t entirely lost.

 
Comment by Greg Olear
2010-01-05 16:19:31

William Goldman says he writes novels to maintain his sanity, as his screenplays are routinely destroyed — or words to that effect. Given all that, it becomes more clear why you were especially reluctant to submit BFL to a Jason-like editorial hack job. I’m glad it didn’t wind up like a horny teenager in one of those slasher films…although I have no doubt, to echo what Matt says later on, that if BFL came out as-is in hardcover on, say, Farrar, with the attendant cachet, it would have made quite a few Best Of lists.

Off to check your Wikipedia page…

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-05 16:30:19

check or vandalise?

I’m banned from contributing to wikipedia, although for about a year something I put on Chuck Norris’ page stayed there.

 
Comment by Greg Olear
2010-01-05 18:01:55

Jedi: Banned…for life?

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-05 19:12:31

well played!

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 00:22:03

Just seeing this, guys.

I’m fascinated that you’re banned from Wikipedia, James. What happened to bring that on, if you don’t mind telling me?

And you contributed to Chuck Norris’ page? Wow.

As always, Greg, I’m grateful. It’s people like you who keep me from blasting a hole in my head.

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-06 03:03:45

If you’re found to be vandalizing pages three times you get banned.

I got caught twice.

And then I claimed on John Logie Baird’s page that there was a film being made of his life which starred Chuck Norris. I wrote the same on Chuck Norris’ page. It was months and months before I was found out, but when I was it was strike three…

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 14:13:01

I see.

Is this some kind of art project of yours? Because I have to say it would make a damned good one.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Erika Rae
2010-01-05 11:19:55

Why Duke, I simply had no idea. No idea at all. And now I’ve just spent several minutes Googling that dark and seedy past of yours. : ) What a confessional. But just for the record, I thought you were hella cool before. I am even willing to overlook that little sleeping bag scene.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 11:29:40

I’m at Google’s mercy now, I know, just as I realize I just lost hella cool factor. What if I assemble a few LA TNB’ers and phone you in the middle of the night? Can that act as a restorative?

Comment by Erika Rae
2010-01-05 12:17:04

You’re not metaphorically offering to drag me out by the sleeping bag with that phone call, are you? (that might’ve been a tad low - sorry!) And I love the phone calls. They make me immensely happy. Oh - and I’m desperately trying to find a way to make the Hollywood TNB live reading in June. I’d love to meet you guys in the flesh.

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Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 14:07:55

Wait. Has a TNB event definitely been scheduled for June? I know Zara and Simon are due for a return to the States, but I wasn’t sure if that meant a TNBoree.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-05 14:13:35

Oh yes. Lets. TNBoree! Great name. Great idea.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 14:20:48

You like the name? Good. I was sure it was lacking.

 
Comment by Erika Rae
2010-01-05 15:00:55

TNBoree it is. I guess I heard wrong. I’ll be watching for the announcement, though!

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 15:04:00

I think your “wrong” hearing may have just led to a very beautiful thing, Erika. But if it happens, how can we arrange to have you here?

 
Comment by Erika Rae
2010-01-05 15:13:22

I wouldn’t say no to a free plane ticket. Sadly, due to the ravages of this last year, my coming will depend entirely upon the availability of the greenback. I want to, though! I have even started a very special TNB fund. Nevermind the fact that it mostly consists of random coins my daughter throws at me in her ignorance of their value. Hmmm…how to exploit the 6-year-old…maybe I could get her to pay me for doing HER chores.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 16:02:32

You may never, ever know how I feel you in the matter of greenbacks. And, actually, I hope you never do.

But if it’ll help: Pay Erika, six-year-old! Release them funds! Yee-uh!

 
Comment by Greg Olear
2010-01-05 20:37:49

There will be a TNB Con. It’s just a matter of when. I’m on it.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 22:33:27

My marshmallows are already roasting.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-06 00:10:22

June?

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 00:23:18

Yes, they should be nicely burned by then.

 
Comment by Greg Olear
2010-01-06 23:10:34

June will be the prelim, Z. Like Pinky Dinky Doo, I’m thinking big.

(And I sincerely hope none of you know who Miss Doo is).

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 23:21:36

Is it David Wills’ pseudonym?

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-06 23:31:07

No, no June should be the main event. Simon and I can only manage 14 hour plane trips every so often!!

 
Comment by Erika Rae
2010-01-06 23:34:03

You know things are bad when your kid hands you a buck and says, “Mom. This is for you since you don’t have any money.”

Yup.

Duke, I’m concerned about your marshmallows.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 23:45:07

What, Erika, is your kid some kind of commie?

I jest, I jest. I’m in a real bind myself. I just try to take it one day — for that matter one hour — at a time.

Meantime, I’m already starting to eat my marshmallows, so your concern is justified.

Oh, and Z., isn’t Simon’s plane trip longer than yours?

 
Comment by Erika Rae
2010-01-06 23:57:14

She’s more like a Republican. I believe that dollar was aimed at lobbying for some more TV time. Oh yes, Greg. I know who Pinky Dinky Doo is. Although I like Duke’s explanation best. Poor David’s gotta watch his back door with those students of his.

(Move, David S Wills! Move! Australia is calling you!)

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 00:06:59

Ha. Kids always have an agenda, which makes them…just like adults.

I think David is ultimately California-bound. But maybe he’ll take to Australia. I, for one, think I would like it there.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 00:08:01

That’s *an* agenda.

 
Comment by Jude
2010-01-07 00:10:44

And Australia would like you too - but we kiwis would like you better….

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 00:12:27

Aw, Jude, you know I’m itching to get to NZ.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-07 00:37:06

Yeah, Simon’s trip is longer. Damn Aussies. They always beat us…

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 04:31:21

Even at rugby?

 
Comment by Erika Rae
2010-01-07 09:18:10

I thought David said in his last post (comments) that he and his gf were kicking around Australia…Whatever the case, I imagine anywhere would be open for consideration..

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 12:41:12

Well, maybe he’ll read this and clarify, but I think he is planning to move to Australia, for a stretch, later this year, though he doesn’t expect to remain. He said his heart belongs to California, or words to that effect.

 
Comment by Erika Rae
2010-01-07 12:57:38

I get that. We moved away when I was 7 and I still miss it terribly. The crappy beaches of Seal Beach and the fragrant neighborhoods of Sacramento - these were my stomping grounds. But things GROW there. And, it’s not -10 degrees when you wake up. Which it was here this morning.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 13:05:05

I never knew you’d done time in California, Erika.

It’s in fact a bit cold this morning, or it is in my apartment, which hasn’t yet heated up. It’s a very old building, in California terms anyway, with no insulation, so it gets very cold in the winter and very hot in the summer.

Also, right around Christmas, it was very cold — again, in California terms. But you really feel the cold here in a way that you might not elsewhere. I’ve had friends from New York visit in the winter, and they‘ll complain about how cold it is, maybe because the expectation is so different.

But, see, I like seasons, so I don’t really mind the cold, even though, only yesterday, I was talking to Greg Olear, and he basically characterized my attitude as romantic. There’s nothing fun about cold or snow, he said. He’d give it up in a minute.

I’m not a fan of cold per se, but I do miss snow. Then again, I never had to drive in it.

 
Comment by Erika Rae
2010-01-07 13:29:27

When we lived in Hong Kong during grad school, it got terribly cold for only a couple weeks out of the year. It was only in the high 30s to low 40s, but our apt had no insulation so it was miserable. I remember putting our toaster oven on the floor and sitting in front of it to try and heat up. So, yeah. Heh. I hear what you’re sayin’.

I’m inclined to agree with Greg. Snow gets tiresome. The beach is in my blood. Unfortunately, my husband likes the mountains and snow. Go figure.

Also, I’m not the best snow driver. I’ve got a driving history not unlike your dark and mysterious past.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 13:37:04

Well, as you know, California has the mountains and snow and the beach. Maybe your husband needs to be reappraised of California geography.

I can definitely imagine you having the beach in your blood, by the way. But does your “dark and mysterious” past with driving in the snow include blood on the hood of your car? I wouldn’t think the worse of you. How could I?

In a completely opposite way, I hear you on the toaster front. When I was on location in Belgrade, it got so hot that, once, I removed the mattress from my hotel bed and set it by the mini-bar refrigerator, trying to sleep next to it with the door open. But even that didn’t do the trick, so I removed all the beer bottles in the fridge and put them in bed next to me. That didn’t do the trick either, but I’d run out of options. The bathtub didn’t work right, otherwise I might have run a old bath and tried to sleep there.

You’d never think Eastern Europe could get that hot, but it does.

 
 
 
 
Comment by wade
2010-01-05 11:25:28

i enjoyed the history lesson. i think i knew most of it, or at least could have pieced it together with all of my super-reliable internet resources…it’s funny, i’ve often thought recently (while listening back) that it’s a blessing that i never “made it” as a musician, as I would have contributed some of the worst music the world has ever known. it’s true. i mean, how many “transcenders” have it figured out from day one? some, but not many. good, bad, ugly, stupid, childish, borderline retarded, however you may paint it, it all funneled into “banned”, and thank god for the rest of us you wrote that…at the end of the day, i believe it was yogi berra who said “the truth shall set you free”. you’re free now (free at last haha). i’m in canada (anne murray, blame canada). gonna ride the train across this tundra and will be back in LA next weekend if I can get through airport security with my bombs. see you soon.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 14:15:21

You remember Shane, right? Shane Richardson? He was, a few days ago, turned away by airport personnel because his mustache appeared suspicious. I kid you fucking not.

Thanks for saying “the rest of us” with regard to Banned. It’s nice to know that there’s “a rest of us.”

Seriously, man, get the hell down here, and fast, and call me as soon as you arrive. It’s been too fucking long.

 
 
Comment by Brin Friesen
2010-01-05 11:41:02

Can’t wait.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 14:38:37

I hope you will.

I would so like to speak to you soon.

 
 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-05 11:46:13

Duke,

I just sent you an e-mail, because it’s been a while.

But great post, and the accompanying photos are pretty damn cool.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 14:05:34

I now have a reason to look forward to checking my inbox. God only knows I don’t have many.

Glad you liked the photos. The obvious thing would’ve been to scan the web for Friday stuff, but such is my dislike for the franchise…

 
 
Comment by Brad Listi
2010-01-05 11:57:51

“He’s annoyed,” she said of the playwright, “because we told him to change the script, and now we told him to change it all back.” She laughed.

I laughed at this line, too, in spite of myself.

Easily the most evil person in this whole riveting tale.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 13:41:48

In fact, she was. I tried to be discreet.

Are you, like, psychic? Or am I far less subtle than aspired?

 
 
Comment by Matt
2010-01-05 12:01:03

You, sir, ain’t no bum. That the world hasn’t paid more attention to Banned For Life says everything about the world and nothing about the book.

I’m fascinated by the Corman connection. While they guy is generally regarded as a shit filmmaker (his movies were so often fodder for the Mystery Science Theater 3000 crew, though I rather liked some of his Poe adaptations) he springboarded a lot of film careers. So for better or worse you’re on the list with people like Martin Scorsese, James Cameron, Jack Nicholson, Francis Ford Coppola, Peter Bogdonavich, Peter Fonda, Robert De Niro, Dennis Hopper and John Sayles. And that’s not really so bad, is it?

I’m curious: have you ever given thought as to how your movie career might have turned out if you’d not take the Friday job and stayed exclusive to Corman?

(And great photos, by the way. Some of those b&w shots look like they could be hanging on the wall in a “Memories of Hollywood” type exhibit.)

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 22:44:48

Matt, how in the hell (I ask myself, not you) has it taken me this long to address you? I apologize and then some.

I agree with you about Roger’s Poe adaptations. I think two of them–The House of Usher and The Pit and the Pendulum–are pretty much the cream of the low-budget horror crop. I also like a few other, non-Poe of his movies. He had something, though by the time I met him, he seemed to have lost his passion for filmmaking.

In fact, I continued to work for him after Friday. In spite of everything — mainly, his cheapness — I very much enjoyed the time I spent at Corman. I didn’t volunteer to leave. Roger always pushed people out of the nest at some point.

He once compared me to Sayles, by the way, which I took as a great compliment. And you mention Bogdanovich — have you seen Targets? Fantastic, methinks.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 22:45:30

Another fucking HTML mistake. Goddamnit.

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Comment by Matt
2010-01-06 00:06:35

Being that so many of his stories were about mood and atmosphere more than spectacle and event, I think Poe’s material really lends itself to smaller-budget features.

I would take being compared to John Sayles as a huge compliment, myself. For Brother From Another Planet if no other reason.

I must confess that, aside from one viewing of Paper Moon over a decade ago and his appearances on The Sopranos I’m not fluent in much of Bogdanovich’s work. Will have to remedy that, I’m sure. When I find the time.

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Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 00:32:02

The Last Picture Show is pretty great, but aside from that, Targets, and Paper Moon, he’s average at best.

 
Comment by Matt
2010-01-06 00:56:17

Yeah, I’ve been kind of given to understand that by and large his career has mostly been based on his position as one of Orson Wells’ last good friends.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 14:11:09

Well, he’s a good writer about film. He started off as a critic, in the style of the French New Wave. And he’s not a bad director; he just failed to live up to his early promise.

Welles was a Bogdanovich houseguest, incidentally. I saw Cybill Shepherd (Bogdanvich’s then-girlfriend) on some chat show once, talking about Welles bellowing to her from the next room in that deep Welles voice: “CY-BILL?!” Can you imagine? It would be like hearing God.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Ryan Day
2010-01-05 12:07:43

What could be cooler? I’m gonna bump your book sales right quick, by one anyway… May D.R. Haney, the Freddy rendering, bionic novelist prosper in twenty-ten.

Trail of Dead kick ass by the way… Being discovered by them as the penner of the sleeping bag scene may be about the wickedest back handed compliment life can dish out… And we are all bitches in the face of life, and as such should expect her backhanded compliments.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 14:57:26

I could definitely use, Ryan, all good wishes for the year ahead, seeing that I’m currently at a low, and thank you for extending them.

As I was revising this post, I asked myself why the inclusion of Australia was relevant, if any way at all, where it came up with TOD. The fact is, they were in Australia when they posted that comment, and that’s partly why I found it so striking: So far away from the States, they’d seemingly just stumbled on this bit of news, or in any case made it public.

I haven’t seen those guys in a while, but I can’t even begin to tell you how big a fan I was once upon a time, and it was always a thrill for me to hang out with them.

Meantime, I hear you loud and clear on the bitches/backhand front — or is that end?

 
 
Comment by Elizabeth Collins
2010-01-05 12:28:55

Duke (or should I call you…I’m joking),

I think your checkered past is a Very Cool Thing. All writing credits are good writing credits, in their own twisted way, and you are clearly versatile and hungry (metaphorically). These are all good traits.

Your digital footprint ensures that you will always live on in some way. So does your novel.

Signed,

Your Fan

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 14:34:58

Dear Fan,

I am you fan as well, so it’s especially gratifying that you sign yourself as you do.

I don’t know that I share your view on all writing credits, however. There are many — and I mean many — on my person that I should like to remove.

But I think you had an inkling of at least some of my revelations, yes?

I haven’t yet had an opportunity to wish you a happy 2010, so please allow me to do so here.

Signed,

Your Fan

 
 
Comment by Mary
2010-01-05 12:45:03

Wow, that’s pretty impressive. I’m looking forward to seeing what kinds of stories this revelation frees up for you.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 15:13:43

Good to hear from you, Mary. It may interest you to know that I was working on two pieces for TNB, and the second, which may take me a while to finish, quotes something I read on your blog. I’ve been thinking about it since I read it — but I may already have said too much. I’ll complete and post the piece in due time.

Thanks so much for reading and responding. And happy 2010 to you, and beyond.

 
 
Comment by Slade
2010-01-05 12:48:44

There are a thousand positive things I want to say after reading this, but I’m settling for this: Phenomenal fucking post.

I needed this read today.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 14:03:24

More than coffee?

But I would never make such a claim for it. I, like you, am addicted. I need a hit now, in fact.

(Thanks very much, Sir Slade.)

 
 
2010-01-05 13:21:23

I already knew this about you. While I was reading Banned - totally killer Greg
told me all about you, including this. It just added to the D.R’s mystique. I never knew it was something you wished to hide. And you know how I feel about your book.

A friend of mine had that Jason mask and once stood outside in the dark with it on waiting for me to notice him from my window - I may be permanently scarred from that. So, maybe now
that I know the people or things to really be scared of are those hollywood execs, I can look out my window again? Dare I watch that sleeping bag scene? Greg and I almost rented it one night.

Can’t wait to hear more stories.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 13:55:10

As I understand it, the sleeping-bag scene in the film is a but a shadow of the scene filmed. But it was meant (on my part anyway) as comic, and it seems to me that’s how it comes across.

Thanks, as always, Steph, for the kind words about the book, which mean, and has meant, more than I think you realize.

2010-01-05 14:19:42

I probably don’t realize it, just like you probably don’t realize
how much your book has meant to me and still means to me and always will.
One day, maybe you’ll hear the song I wrote because your book was instrumental
in unblocking this blocked musician. And then you’ll know.

Everyone who has not read Banned needs to read it now. Go! Do you hear me?

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Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-05 14:22:51

I second this. As a radio personality in NZ recently commented about Banned For Life: “Usually books about the ‘music life’ get it so wrong. This one totally nailed it.”

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-05 14:23:57

** It. Get IT so wrong…**

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 15:02:19

I hope to hear that song very soon, Steph. How can that be arranged?

And, Z, whatever Troy said about BFL goes back to you. You’re the one that made it possible.

 
Comment by Greg Olear
2010-01-05 16:04:01

It’s a pretty fucking fantastic song. It made me cry when I heard it.

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-05 16:12:34

Man of the World by Peter Green is the only song that’s ever made me cry. And only a little bit.

It takes a lot to break British reserve!

 
2010-01-05 16:25:29

oh, no pressure now. And Greg, you were drunk.

Duke, I’m just going to have to record it and sent it to you, one day, when the recording is finished. (gulp. scared)

 
2010-01-05 17:02:42

well, i guess i should also thank you Greg - maybe you were only buzzed.

and Duke, I could also sing it for you on our porch when you guys come here (!!!).

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 19:22:54

I cry like a kicked puppy all the time on hearing beautiful songs. I’m such a soft touch.

Anyway, yeah, I think I might prefer the live version, Steph. But there’s so much to be done between now and then. I understand there might be an opening at T-Pac.

 
2010-01-05 20:14:43

I heard - and wow - I think that’s great.

But it had better not affect your probability of appearing on our porch n’est pas?

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 20:18:03

Tish! You spoke French!

Wait.

I want nothing more than to appear on your porch in the company of my prospective teammates. It’s a bit of a jigsaw at the moment, oui?

I am now feverishly kissing my own forearm.

 
Comment by Greg Olear
2010-01-05 20:37:04

Here’s some of Steph’s stuff, for all interested parties…these are some of my personal favorites, although if I had to pick one, I’d go with “Mecca”:

http://www.healygates.com/ssj/

The first MP3 playlist compiled solely for a comment board…

 
2010-01-05 20:56:27

ok - now I’m embarrassed - thank you at totally killer.
i’d love anyone to listen - but don’t feel like you have to. or anything.

i need to now say this, as the nesting below levels thing
is making this seem out of context but to Duke from before:

Mais je vais pleurer beaucoup de larmes si vous ne venez pas, mais, bien sûr, je vais comprendre.

~Morticia

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 22:58:22

I’m beside myself with desire!

The children. Yes, of course. You’re right. I’m fine now.

I’ve been dashing about this board for some time now, and haven’t had a moment to click on the inviting link sent by Totally Killer. But I will before the night is done, I daresay.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-06 00:12:16

Steph.. You are an inspiration to me.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 14:03:00

Steph literally inspired one of my TNB pieces. She’s a muse, she is. I’m sure Greg would corroborate — if he knows what’s good for him.

 
2010-01-06 23:21:50

Aww you guys - I love you guys, that’s really nice.
And I’m going to muse you so hard when I see you both in June.
I’m going to muse you like a hurricane. I’m going to muse you until dawn
until I can’t muse no mo.

Love,
Muse

 
Comment by Greg Olear
2010-01-06 23:22:58

How amusing…

[Steph is groaning over my shoulder]

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 23:24:47

I sense a new song in the works. See? You’re even a muse to yourself!

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 23:29:43

She may be doing vocal warm-up exercises, Greg. Actors do them too. But they’re really embarrassing, so, on the rare occasions that I do them, it’s strictly in private.

 
2010-01-07 22:56:22

More lyrics to my muse rap:

I’m going to muse all over ya.
Muse ya til the sun don’t shine.
Not use ya, just muse ya,
not lose ya, just muse ya
So, let’s get to it, grab a pen, there’s nothing to it
muse muse muse (ok - it turned kind of vogue-ish there at the end…)

 
Comment by Greg Olear
2010-01-07 23:08:19

The carob has gone to your head, Steph…

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 23:10:39

Maybe this can lead to a new dance in Harlem, with lots of wavy hand gestures, Steph.

More carob for you?

 
 
 
 
Comment by Gloria
2010-01-05 13:25:22

Okay. So, I clicked on the link for the Sleeping Bag Kill scene and it gave me rapid heart palpitations. I can’t watch that shit. However, I’m more than a little curious to know how satisfying - on some level - writing it must have been. I mean, they’re two different things, aren’t they? Watching it and writing/reading it. I can read It but I can’t watch it. I get that you’re a serious writer, but, I don’t know, I kind of picture writing that stuff as a bit of a romp. No?

I really want to read your book now.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 14:26:28

It was definitely a romp. That’s why, as I was trying to say, I figured everyone else would see my having written this thing as a joke. And that particular moment — the sleeping-bag kill — was definitely tongue-in-cheek. I think the ridiculousness of it is the very reason that it’s become, to whatever extent, popular.

But I can promise you that there are no such moments in my book. I mean, not to encourage you or anything. (And I thank you for saying what you do.)

Comment by Gloria
2010-01-05 14:46:52

I will read it. I just finished a book and would hate to have to read the numerous neglected books on my bookshelf. I almost started reading Bonfire of the Vanities (which I’ve owned for five years and have always meant to read) last night. Looks like I’ve dodged that bullet yet again!

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Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 15:21:36

Ha. I started Bonfires once and put it down and never picked it up again, though, honestly, I’d enjoyed the fifty of so pages I read. I got distracted. But it’s only a few feet away from me as I write these words, and only a few weeks ago I contemplated going back to it. Fortunately I never saw the movie, otherwise I know the itch would long since have vanished.

 
Comment by Greg Olear
2010-01-05 15:48:17

I give Bonfire two enthusiastic thumbs up. Although I read it a long time ago, and I’m not sure how relevant it is anymore.

 
Comment by Gloria
2010-01-05 15:57:56

@Duke - I’ll do it if you do it. On three. One…two…

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 15:59:38

Is it too late? I really will if you will!

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-05 16:01:34

I read Bonfire of the Vanities. Kind of. I read most of it.

I had about 50 pages left, but I opened up the end by accident and found out how it ended.

Wasn’t interested enough to find out how it got to that point from where I was…

 
Comment by Gloria
2010-01-05 16:03:38

@Duke - for real? Okay then. When do you want to start? Do we have an end by/discuss by date? Will there be a test? Will it be multiple choice?

Seriously though. I’ll start it tonight. Shall I email you when I’ve finished it?

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 16:03:51

Wet towel, meet James.

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-05 16:07:21

are you hitting me with a wet towel?!

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 19:15:33

Gloria: I think we should set a start/finish time. I’ll meet your terms, whatever they are.

James: No, I’m not hitting you with a wet towel, though I would if you’d stand fucking still.

 
Comment by Gloria
2010-01-05 19:21:06

Sounds great. How about this: my boys (8-year-old twins) go with their dad as of tomorrow morning. They don’t come home until next Wednesday night. I don’t normally have so much boy-free time, so I will commit to having the book read by next Tuesday night. Sound good? We’ll discuss on Wednesday. If you lived closer, I’d make you meet me for a beer while we talk about it. But we’ll make due.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 19:30:02

Well…maybe a little more time…but I did say I’d meet you on your terms, so if next Wednesday it is, than next Wednesday it will be.

 
Comment by Gloria
2010-01-05 19:32:41

No, no. You’re right. That’s a little ambitious. Seriously. Let’s go for: We’ll be done by the afternoon of Sunday, January 17th. Better?

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 19:35:10

Yes. That I think I can handle.

But how to hold our two-person book-club meeting?

 
Comment by Gloria
2010-01-06 14:46:43

Hey there. I emailed you an answer and tried to add you on Facebook so that we could take our plotting and planning offline. Just FYI.

Cheers,
Gloria

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 14:52:14

Yes, I saw that you’d written to me, but I haven’t had time to respond. (TNB always takes precedence over my correspondence.) I have to rush off an errand that will occupy most of the afternoon, but I’ll drop you a line tonight.

Oh, and you say you “tried” to add me on Facebook? Were you having a problem there?

 
Comment by Gloria
2010-01-06 16:33:12

Gah! Now I feel like an enormous ass-hat. I wasn’t trying to suggest that you’re being remiss, I just know that sometimes people use certain email addresses for spam and whatnot (and therefore never check them) and certain other ones for other sorts of communication. I wasn’t clear which one was the one that appeared in my Yahoo inbox.

And no, no problem with Facebook. “Tried” was the wrong verb.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 19:57:19

Good. I’ll check Facebook in a while. Just darting in here before I run up the street on another errand.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-05 13:27:52

Duke,
I’m so glad that you have posted. I was suffering some serious withdrawl symptoms.
As ever - this was just another fantastic story from you that is full of so many gems and so much insight and beauty and wisdom.
You really are a treasure. And I for one, think you are super cool for writing a Friday the 13th.
Love the pictures by the way. Just brilliant. Awesome.
Encore! xx
(I shall hunt down the ‘Life Among the Cannibals’ and SS and I can watch when I’m in Australia…!)

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 13:47:07

You’re too kind as always, angel. And you’re the treasure. You do know that, right?

But if Cannibals can’t be readily found at the corner video store, my Melbourne friend Daniel can hook you up. It’s because of that movie that he and I are friends.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 13:48:05

Fucking HTML error. Old times, 2.0-style.

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Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-05 13:55:20

I’m not too kind at all, just telling it like it is.
I shall look up ‘cannibals’ today! Now, to go back and re-read your piece, since I was jonesing in a big way and I need another hit.

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Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 13:57:48

Ah, Z. Is there honeysuckle in NZ? That’s what you are to me.

(Wait: I just notice that I’ve rhymed like crazy in the above.)

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-05 14:05:09

It doesn’t rhyme if you say Z like we do…
(but thank you, D x)

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 14:09:03

Oh, shit. I keep forgetting about that Z.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-05 14:12:19

I think your way makes a lot more sense than saying ‘zed.’

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 14:17:11

But I like your way of saying it more. Maybe because it seems exotic.

 
Comment by Matt
2010-01-05 14:18:06

That ‘zed’ business is nonsense.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-05 14:20:41

No it’s not, Matt.
Think about it: What sounds better? NZ (enzee) or NZ (enzed)???
ENZED. Right? Right.

 
Comment by Matt
2010-01-05 14:22:54

Nope! ENZED sounds like someone’s goofy-ass hippy name. ENZEE sounds like two letters put together properly.

Also: POO-ma.

 
Comment by Greg Olear
2010-01-05 15:53:25

It was Ambrose Bierce, I believe, who campaigned for “W” to be pronounced “wow,” which would be way cooler than “zee” or “zed,” both of which sound fine to my ears.

 
Comment by Phat B
2010-01-05 16:40:08

That would make web addresses way more extreme. Just cruise on down to wow wow wow thenervousbreakdown dot com.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-05 16:44:05

wow wow wow.
I love that. I might try and revive it.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-05 16:45:05

And Matt - ask Simon and David Wills - it’s PYUMA.
Oh 100?

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-05 16:47:16

Pew-ma.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-05 16:49:08

Oh and Jim! Sorry Jim! I always forget the motherland.

 
Comment by Matt
2010-01-05 16:50:56

When I want Simon or David’s opinion on something, I’ll give it to them, damn it!

POO-mah.

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-05 16:58:37

I’m the only one of you lot wot speaks proper inglish like ‘er madgesty does.

It’s pew-ma, like yer offerin’ yer old mum a seat at the church.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-05 16:59:09

Easy, Tiger.

 
Comment by Matt
2010-01-05 17:09:11

Which runs you right into the problem, Irwin: it’s not a proper english word! It’s from a native American language. English grammatical rules do not apply.

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-05 17:43:35

What’s your excuse for aloo-min-um?

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-05 17:47:15

Exactly!

 
Comment by Matt
2010-01-05 17:48:36

In the States it’s spelled a-l-u-m-i-n-u-m. How else would you pronounce that?

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 19:02:58

I don’t know how the hell I managed to miss out on such a scintillating exchange, and I realize it’s now too late to join in, but, um, there’s this song? Called “Wow Wow Wow”? And it’s by one of my favorite bands, Girls Against Boys?

Never mind. As I said, I know it’s too late to join in. Lamesville is my name.

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-05 19:15:28

Well that’s where you’re going wrong old chap. How can you pronounce words correctly when you leave out vital letters.

You bloody americans drop vowels from proper words like cockneys drop ‘h’s!

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-05 19:19:48

Careful James, we’re treading dangerous waters here. After all we pronounce Stupid as ‘Schtewpid.”
The American’s have got it over us on that one at least..

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 19:44:47

Who’s this “us”? What, is Blighty and NZ now one and the same?

And if we have one thing over you, that’ll be about the extent of it, I promise you.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-05 19:52:00

Well, we ARE the Commonwealth, Duke…

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-05 20:03:23

Our Queen is your Queen. And we also have a lot of your lamb in the frozen meat section…

The Americans pronounce it stoo-pid, don’t they? It should be stew-pid.

If it wasn’t for the Brits you’d all be speaking French right now. You’d be no better than Canada!

Zut alors!

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 20:14:58

I, for one, wouldn’t mind it if we in your former –and I emphasize, former — colony were all speaking French. French is hot — or it is when spoken by the female of the species.

Oh, and I was born and raised in Virginia, which was named after your (arguably) greatest monarch, and Virginia is a commonwealth state, I’ll have you know.

I crave a meat pie.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-05 20:16:07

Who us?? The mighty Anzac’s? No mate, we’d be Dutch.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-05 20:17:12

When you come down under Duke, you will be awestruck at the meat pies on offer.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 20:21:25

Yes, I am now familiar with your Dutch history. New Zeeland, indeed.

Damn, what I wouldn’t give for a meat pie now.

Baiting me, are you?

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-05 20:53:06

This whole tangent has led to me to start a whole TNB post about Britian. Satirical of course.

Although now I’m tempted to do a ‘Greatest Monach of All Time Battle Royal.’

I’d probably go for the Virgin Queen, the original Queen Elizabeth. Who doesn’t love a redhead?

I had a meat pie for dinner— or steak and kidney at any rate.

France is a lovely country. For visiting.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 22:53:54

Any mention of kidneys in the edible sense has me immediately thinking of Ulysses. The passage in which Bloom sizzles kidneys is one of the greatest things I ever read.

I can’t wait to read your Britain post, James. But if you’ve only but visited France, I think it may be a tad unfair to pass judgment on it as a place to live.

 
Comment by Phat B
2010-01-06 02:16:02

If it ain’t Dutch, it ain’t much…

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-06 03:06:43

I’m actually quite rare in being an Englishman who not only likes the Americans, but the French as well.

I’m planning to live in France for a while after university. I like the place a lot. And the language.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 13:56:01

I never heard that saying about the Dutch before, Phat B — is it original?

Oh, and you like both the French and the Americans, James, may be you can help to bring them together, since they famously detest each other. But I’m with you in liking the French. I think they have a bum rap. And the language is beautiful — maybe the most beautiful language.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 13:59:03

Wait. That’s IF you like both the French and the Americans, MAYBE you can help…

Oh, what I wouldn’t give for a comment toolbar.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-06 14:01:04

Bloody French. NZ’s mortal enemies.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 14:15:59

Really? How so? Competing cheese industries?

Without the French, there would be no America.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-06 14:20:54

Well, first off they always beat us at our national game; Rugby.
Secondly, the French Government sent their secret agents into Auckland Harbour and bombed our anti-nuclear ships, killing people and sinking our ship.
Oh and of course, they refused to stop their nuclear testing off our shores.
We don’t much like them, I’m afraid.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 14:30:02

It’s a sad day when the French beat anyone at rugby. They’re thought to be effete, you know.

But the rest — yes, I now remember you mentioning that before. Of course you know that Americans loathe the French, but I personally can’t get past all the great art they’ve produced.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-06 14:32:02

I do like the fact that they smoke a lot though.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 14:39:40

Yes, and they have really cool cigarettes.

But if you want to go to a place where people really smoke a lot, try Eastern Europe. It’s a regular smoke-athon.

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-06 15:50:14

The French being so good at ruby angers and confuses me. Although a lot of that is bitterness because back in 2003 our boys were bloody well unstoppable!

 
Comment by Jude
2010-01-06 16:57:08

I have to agree with Duke that the French language is probably the most beautiful in the world. And like Zara (and most other Kiwis) we’re not so forgiving of the fact that they came into our harbour and blew up the Greenpeace ship - killing a young Portuguese man in the process.

However trying to stand aside from that, I do love the French attitude regarding their language. They very reluctantly speak any English unless they really have to - and I guess that arrogance makes the French very strong in their culture. I admire that.

I remember when I was there many years ago and was stunned at how good looking and well-dressed the Parisians were. And then in complete contrast, out in the country-side, I felt as if I had been transported back in time a couple of centuries.

And like you Duke, the art, the food, the wine…trés fantastique!

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 20:02:47

Ah yes, the chic Parisians. I never spent any time in the provinces, but I’m not surprised that hear that they’re backward — if that’s what you’re saying, as it now seems to me that you aren’t.

I’m going to have to read up about the Greenpeace ship — that is astonishing. When, approximately, did it happen?

But I’m glad in we’re accord about the language and the rest. Aesthetically, I don’t think there’s anything the French don’t do well, or haven’t. Their track record is pretty mind-blowing.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 20:18:14

Oh, and James, rugby isn’t an enormously popular sport in the States, which explains my ignorance about which national teams are good, and so on.

Though, you know, I always thought I could really get into playing rugby. It’s a pity I never learned the game. Ah well. I didn’t know anyone who played it, and I was always busy anyway.

 
Comment by Jude
2010-01-06 21:22:48

The sinking of the Rainbow Warrior - as the Greenpeace ship was called - was in July 1985.
Here’s a link to what happened…

http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/politics/nuclear-free-new-zealand/rainbow-warrior

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 21:39:02

Ah, it all comes back to me now. Yes, I do remember hearing about the Rainbow Warrior — how could I have forgotten?

Thanks for the link, Jude. Them damn French!

 
Comment by Greg Olear
2010-01-06 23:39:59

French culture rules. You’re right, Duke — check that; Duc — that they’ve done just about everything well — including championing freedom of the press and of speech. Without France, there might not have been a Lolita. Love, love France.

The French military, on the other hand, as the NZers can attest…boo hiss. The Maginot Line, ‘nuf said. Belardes can check me on this, but notwithstanding Napoleon’s misadventures, which of course didn’t last, the last time France can claim to have won a war was more than half a millennium ago, when they were led to battle by a fourteen-year-old girl they later burned at the stake.

Oh, and without France there would be no USA…but without the USA, there would be no France. Even Steven. Or Étienne, as it were…

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 00:04:07

That’s true. We did bail out the French in WWII. On the other hand, there were a number of people in France who seem to have welcomed German invasion. Fascism was more popular throughout Europe than many would care to admit.

But wasn’t the burning of Joan of Arc a collaboration between the English and French? Maybe not.

The French have a long history of embracing artists who were neglected on their native turf. Poe, for instance, had a following in France that he lacked in America. Also, French intellectuals took Hollywood movies seriously long in advance of American academics. Without Hollywood, there would have been no French New Wave, which is interesting, since there’s nothing “Hollywood” about New Wave films, aside from the many references to American directors like Nicholas Ray.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Jude
2010-01-05 14:23:39

“I hoped to establish, once and for all, that I did have talent”

Oh Duke… you have talent - you have talent that the world needs to know about. But it’s an unfortunate thing that true talent never seems to be recognized - as I have many times said, the punters have no taste!

I am so happy to read another of your wonderful posts - I have missed your writing and the powerful punch it packs! I can’t wait to read the stories you have never told before… and I am bloody well going to read them!

And one more thing… the pictures are great. There’s a young Marlon Brando lurking in there - and I know it was not the best time for you, but my god, that pic of you in the hospital bed - it’s such a great composition. With the mustard blanket and the serene look on your face, you look like a Buddhist monk!

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 19:11:16

I can’t take any credit for the mustard blanket. It was supplied by the hospital. However, I suppose I can some credit for ending up beneath the blanket. And the serenity was care of morphine — any credit should be attributed to the hypodermic, if not to the poppy that preceded it.

I love you forever for the Brando remark, among others. Then again, I was already prepared to love you forever. I’m only sorry that I’m surely too late to be your first-footer.

Comment by Jude
2010-01-05 19:23:27

First footer - 2011 Duke - that’s a promise!

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Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 19:33:07

Well, I certainly propose to see you by 2011, if not on at midnight on the day it begins, but now that I think of it…can I really qualify as a first-footer?

Now, six-footer — that I’ve got covered.

 
Comment by Jude
2010-01-05 19:41:52

First-footer, second-footer, third-footer, fourth footer, fifth footer, ah…Six-footer - just perfect!

Just make sure you fast-foot and hot-foot it over here. We’ve got your name on it….

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 19:59:56

Oh, I am so anxious. I can’t even begin to tell you.

 
 
 
 
Comment by sheree
2010-01-05 15:14:05

Never saw any of your movies. I do like your writing a great deal though.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 16:31:53

Thank Zeus that you know me only by my writing, apart from my writing for movies.

Happy 2010, by the way. I’ve been wondering how you are.

Comment by sheree
2010-01-05 21:59:33

Still out here in the desert, sucker punching wind for the hell of it. Thanks for asking after me and Happy 2010 to you as well good Sir.

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Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 22:14:30

That’s the first time in ages that someone has called me “sir” and I haven’t felt like it was a tacit insult. Thanks yet again, Sheree. And don’t let that wind off the hook!

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-06 15:52:15

That was very close to The Simpsons line ”…. called me sir without adding ‘you’re making a scene.”’

I call people sir all the time. I swing between ‘dude’ and ’sir’, which is probably a little strange…

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 20:11:08

I use “sir” fairly often myself, but I don’t like the sound of it when it’s said to me — not usually. It’s like a note of formality by people who are otherwise conspicuously informal, and their use of it implies that I’m alien to them.

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-07 12:15:43

I say it so often my friends have picked it up… it’s weird.

I think it’s probably different in the country though, because historically it’s always been a fairly common way to greet/address people. For a class obsessed country it doesn’t quite have such formal connotations…

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 12:57:59

It’s common here in the South, where I was born and raised, or at least it was. I was told, as a child, to say “ma’am” and “sir” to every adult, and I did. It was only after I left the South that people started to react oddly to it — women, for instance, saying, “Oh, please don’t call me ma’am; it makes me feel old.”

But that I can understand. I’ve had kids at shows call me sir, and it always feels a bit like a stab. And I really do think, subconsciously at least, it’s intended that way. I mean, if the same kid were talking to Ian MacKaye or Henry Rollins or someone admired, would he address him as “sir”? Maybe “ironically.” That’s the way I often use the word.

In a different spirit, I sometimes say it back to kids.

“Sir, do you have a lighter?”

“I don’t, sir.”

Thank you, sir, for this exchange, in which I can explore my feelings with regard to “sir.”

 
 
 
 
Comment by Erika
2010-01-05 15:15:47

Duke I am so glad your back! I have so much I want to comment on but not enough time. So I will keep it short and just state that I have to agree with Jude - you have talent! Not many can stir up so much emotion out of others through their art like you do. So take that and own it because you deserve it.I as well hope you continue to tell your stories and free your soul. Here’s to reading more of your stories in this New Year.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 16:36:06

I’m go glad to hear from you, Erika!

Reno privileged me by appearing in L.A. over the holidays. If only you could’ve been here, too.

How can we manage to some day have us all in the same room at the same time? I blame Reno that it hasn’t happened so far, damn him.

 
 
Comment by J.M. Blaine
2010-01-05 15:20:49

I was going to post a new piece today but no way I’m following this.

A writing teacher once told me “Honesty always works.”
My favorite post from you.
Can you write a whole book of this?
I was hooked on every word.

We’re all bums &
has-beens with
checkered pasts.
Take it from St Francis
& a guy who turned
down a gig with David Allen Coe.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 16:49:18

My friend, I’m so behind on the Coe front.

We should’ve done a Q&A a long time ago. I promise you that I was well-intentioned. My brain is made of feathers, and it’s been getting more so all the time.

But aside from all that, I was just wishing the other day for a JMB post. It’s been a while. But it sounds like you’ve got one in the popper. Could you release it, please?

Comment by J.M. Blaine
2010-01-05 17:12:09

Have you noticed
both our Gravitars
are yellow and black?

Any friend of a friend
of Coe knows
to never fret time.

new post tomorrow.

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Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 18:55:56

I am so looking forward to it.

I hadn’t noticed the similarities in color schemes. Does this mean we are bees?

 
 
 
 
Comment by J.M. Blaine
2010-01-05 15:23:46

I’ve got a little spec script
for
Jason vs. The Dukes of Hazzard
Could you forward it
to Robert Corman for me?
I need some rent moneys.

Comment by Phat B
2010-01-05 15:44:41

If it’s in 3D you’ve already sold a ticket

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 15:53:30

Never say such a thing to a screenwriter. “3D? Well, um, okay. There’s this cop, Popeye Doyle, and he’s on the verge of a drug bust, and he literally bursts through the screen…!”

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Comment by Phat B
2010-01-05 15:57:03

Have you seen “Adaptation?” That is screenwriter gold. “Why can’t I just make a movie about flowers?”

“And God help you if you use voiceover narration!”

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-05 16:05:43

I have to read ‘The Orchid Thief’ for my creative writing course. I thought that possibly having seen “Adaptation” would be good enough, but apparently the book and the film differ slightly…

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 16:11:02

Adaptation is great.

And, no, James, the two don’t differ at all. Watch the movie. That’s all you need. Trust me.

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-05 16:17:53

It took me a while to get Adaptation. At first I thought it just got shit at the end, but then I realised why…

Also, why doesn’t Nic Cage do more comedy? Oh right, because Face/Off and Con Air pay better…

 
Comment by Phat B
2010-01-05 16:49:21

Everything Nic Cage does is comedy. Have you seen his performance in the Wicker Man remake? Epic. Some choice highlights:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6i2WRreARo

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-05 16:59:54

I’ve seen the video. I have to get hold of the film. As soon as I saw him hit that woman I knew I had to see it.

And the bees!

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 18:53:06

Oh, man. I don’t think I can bear to look at that clip.

 
 
 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 16:51:10

Me too, actually.

I’m no longer in touch with Roger, but I’ve got to say: Jason vs. The Dukes of Hazard sounds like the greatest thing, very nearly, I ever heard.

How to make it happen?

Comment by sheree
2010-01-05 22:07:50

I would spend tampon money to see Jason vs The Dukes of Hazard! B.J and the Bear could give Jason a lift into Hazard County with McMillian and wife hot on his trail. Maybe Irwins mustached hero Magnum could be Daisy Dukes savior….. Just a thought.

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Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 22:18:16

I don’t know about James and Magnum and Daisy, but I do know I’d give you tampon money to spend to see Jason vs. the Dukes of Hazard, if I had it to give. And I’d be in the ringside seat beside you.

 
Comment by J.M. Blaine
2010-01-06 02:10:31

I don’t really recall the format but it’s something like this huh?

INT - BARN - NIGHT

Yellow moon shines through the open loft. An owl HOOTS. Various farming implements hang against the far wall. Shovel. Hoe. Pitchfork.

Long legs. White heels. Short shorts and panty hose. DAISY DUKE spreads a blanket on the hay. Deputy ENOS STRAIT tugs nervously at the skinny black tie of his uniform. They sit.

CLOSEUP DAISY and ENOS

DAISY
Enos, I’m just so proud you could come to my moonlight picnic.

ENOS
(shy)
Shoot fire, Daisy I wouldn’t a missed it for the world.

She brushes back her long brown hair. The barndoor CREAKS.

ENOS
Possum on a gum bush Daisy - What you reckon that was?

DAISY
The wind? I hope.

As DAISY clings tightly to the Deputy the camera pulls away. In the distance there is a shovel. A hoe. No pitchfork.

CLOSEUP:
Splattered coveralls pan down to a large boot creeping through the hay.

BACK to BARN

ENOS holds Daisy tightly.

ENOS
(shakily)
Just the wind.

A hulking shadow moves across the barn wall behind them. DAISY SCREAMS.

CLOSEUP:
JASON VOORHIES - Seven feet of gore-covered coveralls and a goalie mask LIFTS the pitchfork over his head.

When SUDDENLY…

As CAR HORN, splits the air with the familiar strains of DIXIE!

BACK to BARN

The Barn Door SHATTERS, an orange and blue car EXPLODES into the scene T-BONING JASON and HURLING him through the far end of the barn.

The General Lee SKIDS to a stop. BO and LUKE DUKE LEAP out from the car’s windows.

LUKE DUKE

Ya’ll OK?

DAISY and ENOS run to embrace the duo.

BO DUKE
Who the heck was that?

Focus FADES on the four.
In the moonlit field, JASON stands and readies his fork.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 13:51:02

JMB, that is a Hall of Fame comment if ever I read one. Hey, you’ve got to read this, everybody!

(Hopefully that will amount to me shouting on the comment sidebar.)

Seriously, though, you must have written a screenplay at one point, yes? You’ve even got the SOUNDS capped and everything.

I am floored. And I really, really want to see that movie.

 
Comment by sheree
2010-01-06 15:07:03

I think it’s bloody brilliant!

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-06 15:08:07

Hear, hear.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 15:11:45

Isn’t it?

Hey, everybody, look what I got.

Mister, is you an angel?

 
Comment by jmblaine
2010-01-06 21:49:18

Or somethin’

 
Comment by jmblaine
2010-01-06 21:50:03

That was off the top of my head.
All day long I’ve been thinking of scenes.
Geez

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 22:37:39

Top of the head is a great place for screenwriting.

If only the rights weren’t so hard to get. At the very least this would make for a great YouTube short. I can easily imagine it going viral.

 
Comment by jmblaine
2010-01-07 02:07:13

D.R. you gotta teach me how you spawn
like 260 comments.
NLP hypnotics or something?
I’ve got a post up and all day
I’ve been thinking about your comments.

First I’ve got to say what a blasphemous
travesty that film with the Jackass boys was to the legacy
of The Dukes.

I’ve been thinking about this false finish all day.

Bo and Luke have a showdown with Jason in his lair at Boss Hogg’s
secret moonshine factory.
He thinks he has them trapped in the rafters
but they double back and with a tireiron to the back
he topples into the carnage of steel below.

“Reckon that’s the last we’ll see of that ole boy,” says Bo.

They get in the General Lee.
As they are backing out we here the boggy froggy
sounds of a foghorn playing Edgar Winter’s Frankenstein!
Jason crashes through the wall in a BLUE and ORANGE car with the Union Flag on top!
The General Grant!
He careens into the General Lee!
It’s Demolition Derby Mayhem!
Smash and Crash until they ply their superior driving skills
and send the General Grant careening into the giant still
of FLAMMABLE moonshine.
It topples and spills - thousands of gallons into Hazzard Pond.
Jason, enraged, leaps onto the hood of the General Lee and in a frenzy punches out the windshield. His gloved hand throttles around Luke’s throat while his other paws for a giant shard of glass.
“Bo…” Luke says through gritted teeth. “Gun it!”

Bo lays the pedal to the floor, honks Dixie and hits their biggest jump ever out of the factory wall and OVER the pond -
The brunt of takeoff sends Jason backwards & upright on the hood
With precise timing Luke leans back and fires his bow -
sticking him in the chest with a dynamite arrow!
Jason fumbles and tumbles, the fuse spitting as he falls….
into the shine-filled Hazzard Pond and
BOOM!
Massive explosions and flames
as the General Lee traverses to the other side with a Yee-Haw
and fists pumped they land on the far bank.

As the credits roll a charred mask floats slowly
to the bottom of the pond.

See? I’m crazy here~
Imagine how much money this film would make JUST
in Tennessee?

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 04:02:22

It really is a fantastic idea, and your additions are great. I especially savor the image of Jason driving that car. He needs to expand his repertoire, moving away from kitchen and gardening tools.

As far as the Friday producers are concerned, or were concerned, comedy and Jason don’t mix, though. The sixth part of the franchise was a comedy-horror, and it didn’t do very well. But maybe with the Dukes factor…!

About the comments thing, I really don’t know how it happened. I started off getting twelve or so comments, on average, and I didn’t change my approach or anything. I was surprised when the numbers started climbing, and every time I post a new piece, I always think, This will be the one that barely gets any comments.

Of course, I did pay that witch to cast a spell on TNB, so maybe that has something to do with it.

 
Comment by jmblaine
2010-01-07 14:15:45

Well as a kid watching the Dukes
I always thought how cool it would be
to have a nemesis drive the Bizarro version
of the General Lee.
Now if that nemesis was Jason Voorhies?
Ah geez.

I think you’re a natural conversationalist DR.
You excite people.
I’m all reserved and shadowy and concise
and look how stirred up you got me.

I’m only gonna say one more thing:
HAZZARD COUNTY FAIR
Bo and Luke get in a fist fight with Jason and Freddy
on the double Ferris Wheel!

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-07 14:18:57

I am loving this. The pictures I have in my head are insane.. !! Ferris Wheel fight? Too funny.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 15:03:21

Actually, JMB, there was a Ferris Wheel fight planned for the end of Friday Part VII at one point, or something like it.

There was originally a whole sort of Jaws-type angle, in which condos were being built on Crystal Lake and the developer behind them didn’t want people to know about Jason Vorhees and the murders that had taken place over the years. (As if such a thing could be forgotten! I mean, what was the body count by then?) Anyway, on the night of the grand opening, there were amusement rides and so on, and Jason appeared and all havoc broke loose.

None of those were my ideas. Rather, the development exec wanted a bigger, more elaborate movie than all the sequels before it. Then the head honcho said no way. It was obviously coming off like Godzilla or something.

Anyway, there’s some more Friday history, for anyone who might be remotely interested, as I can’t see why they would be.

Thanks, as always, 11, for your kind words. And I hope the pictures in your head have become a bit more insane now, Z., but in a good way.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-07 15:08:23

Yes. Even more insane. Thank you.
Did I tell you that the Friday the 13th franchise inspired one of my high school friends to go on to film school and then move into directing? He later did ‘Eight Legged Freaks’ which I’m pretty sure, as far as I can recall, paid homage to Jason in it.
He used to make slasher films through high school and I remember being lucky enough to be used for a part where I had my neck broken by a one armed man, while I was in my bathing suit. I blame you, Duke Haney.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 15:15:13

I never saw Eight Legged Freaks, though I’ve heard of it. But I’m amazed that the Friday movies have inspired anyone to do anything at all, except to laugh. I never did understand their popularity. To me it was just another Halloween ripoff. There were many for a spell, most titled after a holiday (or in any case a “special” day).

But you didn’t literally get your neck broken, did you? Either way, I’ll accept your blame. I always think I’m to blame for everything. Grandiosity, no doubt.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-07 15:19:21

No, not literally, just in the movie. Suffering for someone else’s art I guess…
HA!

 
Comment by Matt
2010-01-07 15:23:20

I saw Eight-Legged Freaks in the theater! On a date! That movie is goofy as all hell–we had a blast!

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 15:23:36

Well, it is art. I mean, there’s bad art and good art — or there’s the other argument, that bad art isn’t art. That’s been the subject of many a late-night dorm discussion. Ah, youth.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 15:25:03

Does Freaks involve spiders?

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-07 15:25:37

Matt: I will tell my friend - he will be pleased I’m sure.

‘Ah youth’ indeed, Duke!

 
Comment by Matt
2010-01-07 15:26:45

Yup. Big mutant ones attacking David Arquette, Scarlet Johanssen and the other residents of a small desert mining town.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-07 15:26:56

Oh yes, it involves ridiculously large spiders. I think they have been infected with some sort of toxic waste.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 15:27:05

Indeed, indeed.

(Deja vu?)

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 15:30:56

Comments out of order here, but you just mean they were enormous, right? Sorry to be dense. I thought for a second that they might have been harmed while being shipped to NZ.

There are some really huge spiders, you know. Don’t a few species dine on birds and rodents?

(I just went in to correct an HTML error, forgetting that I had the power to do such things on my own pieces. That’s how long it’s been since I’ve posted.)

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-07 15:39:16

Gigantic. Like truck size.
Oh, another claim to fame that NZ has, is that we shipped a whole bunch of our native spiders to hollywood to star in ‘Arachnophobia.’
In fact, I feel pretty certain that the spider I inadvertently sent to Greg and Stephanie may have been one of that species.
We have a neighbourhood here in Auckland that is obsessed with these particular spiders. So much so that they have a massive sculpture of a spider in a web in the main shopping area and all the stores have enormous fibreglass models of spiders on the top of their buildings. It’s sick.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 15:42:05

Wait. There are truck-sized spiders living in NZ?

Okay, I’m a little freaked out now.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-07 15:44:59

No! No!
In the movie - ‘Eight Legged Freaks’ -they were truck sized! CGI truck sized.
The biggest spiders we have here are maybe the size of your palm.
!!!

 
Comment by Matt
2010-01-07 15:45:25

Doesn’t NZ have a bunch of big edible bugs? That you can just pick up off the ground and munch on?

 
2010-01-07 15:46:05

Like that one that you put in our box?
(wink wink wink - kidding! had to….)

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-07 15:47:30

Exactly!!! Oh, I can’t believe I sent you a yucky spider!! Oh!

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 15:48:05

Well, that’s still pretty big, Z. But it’s not as big as I feared a second ago. And how big do the spiders in Oz get? About the same size? I always thought it was the Asian and African spiders that get huge.

Oh, and Matt, aren’t most bugs edible? I’ve heard of people surviving on nothing but bugs.

 
Comment by Matt
2010-01-07 15:50:14

Yeah, but I’ve heard of some in NZ that are actually supposed to be palatable, even tasty….kind of like those witchity grubs they have in OZ…

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-07 15:51:08

Australia beats us yet again. Their spiders are fucking huge.
Massive. Fully sick. Ugly monsters.
I’m not sure what bugs you can eat here, I’m sure you can if needs must, but I have to say I’ve never seen anyone in NZ just stop and pick up a bug off the ground and eat it.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 15:52:25

Well, maybe with a bit of Louisiana hot sauce…

Also, of course, if I can eat shellfish, which are kind of like bugs of the sea, I can probably be made to eat the land sort. I mean, I’ve eaten snails. In fact, snails are pretty damned good.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 15:55:03

You’re more reassuring about NZ by the second, Z. I was picturing myself hiking with Kiwis and one of them stopping to devour a bug — “Sweet as!” — and coaxing me to do the same.

But as the giant Aussie spiders also the poisonous ones?

 
Comment by Matt
2010-01-07 15:55:21

The Goliath Birdeater tarantula of Brazil is often over a foot long…and can live twenty years or more. Luckily, they’re not dangerous to humans.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-07 15:56:12

Yes, I am pretty sure you will like the seafood/shellfish/bugs of the sea here…

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 15:57:14

Good. I do so enjoy my bugs of the sea, you know.

 
 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-07 15:59:19

We have no poisonous spiders here. Oh wait. Yes we do. The Katipo spider, which is basically a black widow with a red strip on it. But you know, I have never ever seen one. Nor do I know anyone who has ever seen one. Plus we have anti-venom here if anyone is unlucky enough to get bitten. But yes, Australia is full of deadly things. I must remember NOT to walk around barefoot when I’m there at the end of the month…

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 16:00:39

Ha. Matt, there was a band called Goliath Birdeater. I didn’t make the connection between that and the spider, though I’ve heard of it.

I think most of the really huge spiders aren’t dangerous to man. Maybe their size is already enough to scare off larger predators, which may already have a natural fear of spiders, as it’s been said that most species do of snakes.

I’m obviously not much of a naturalist.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 16:04:59

Black widows are grotesque things. Even their walk is grotesque. I’m sure you remember being teased about black widows when you were here in L.A., Z. There really are a lot of them.

And yet you chose to walk barefoot. Well, I hope you will indeed remember not to do so in Australia.

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-07 16:07:57

Yes I remember being teased about black widows on an almost daily basis! I’m sure there will be more in June. And, yes - I will remember to wear my shoes while walking the melbourne footpaths and parks!

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 16:09:43

There you go. My work is done.

 
Comment by Matt
2010-01-07 16:48:44

Huhu beetles! I knew I wasn’t just off my rocker!

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 18:09:48

Did you Google a NZ bug? I can’t find any huhu references above. Am I blind?

 
Comment by Matt
2010-01-07 18:13:08

No, Zara mentioned them in one of her older posts, and I went hunting, found the reference, and then did a Google search on them. Which confirmed my suspicions. “Has a taste similar to buttered chicken” one of the references said.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 18:23:51

Nothing will ever convince me of that. I think the butter would have to be added.

 
Comment by Matt
2010-01-07 18:41:39

If I were in NZ and a kiwi offered me one, I’d probably eat it.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 18:47:04

For me, it would depend on the Kiwi. I mean, if it were a half-dead Kiwi, retching on the floor, and he offered me a bug to eat…

 
 
 
 
Comment by jonathan evison
2010-01-05 15:40:17

. . . glad you finally outed yourself, duke . . . hate to say i told you so, but i knew people would find your past with corman fascinating, i sure did . . . .

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 15:50:08

Must you always be right?

 
Comment by Greg Olear
2010-01-05 15:56:43

Meant to say up front: the moral of this story is, Evison is always right.

Or, to put it in a cartoonish way, “If Woody had gone straight to the police, this would never have happened.”

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 16:07:50

Does “Woody” have phallic significance?

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Comment by Greg Olear
2010-01-05 16:21:07

Been years since I’ve seen that cartoon, but probably.

 
2010-01-05 16:38:12

is it Woody? I thought it was if those meddling kids had….

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 18:50:04

…what? Solved a mystery? Asked for a Scooby snack?

Gosh darnit, I would’ve gotten away with it, if it hadn’t been for them meddling kids.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Phat B
2010-01-05 15:50:41

We often did a google trace on screenwriting teachers. My favorite teacher of the bunch penned “Iron Eagle 3: Aces.” At least you didn’t write porn, and yes, there are scripts for porn and people get paid.

Comment by Greg Olear
2010-01-05 15:58:27

Phat: I love that you can tell us stuff like that with such authority.

IE3 had to have been better than the original, one of the worst things I’ve ever seen in a theater.

Comment by Phat B
2010-01-05 16:26:09

There’s a classic porn blooper I saw on the net somewhere where they’re running through a “dry hump” where they do all the acting and then run through the sex with their clothes on to get the lighting and camera angles right, and make sure flexibility and height and such are all permitting. So this fully clothed porn starlet is sitting on this studs lap, imitating reverse cowgirl, repeating “fuck me fuck me fuck me fuck me…” then a pause as she looks off camera and says “What’s my next line? Oh right. Fuck me fuck me fuck me fuck me…”

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Comment by Greg Olear
2010-01-05 16:29:30

Ha! You’d like to think there was some freedom for improvisation in blue movies…I guess not.

 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-05 16:45:42

No, it’s all fairly rigid.

 
Comment by Gloria
2010-01-05 17:16:49

My favorite writing teacher ever, Thom Bray, played Murray on Rip Tide. :) He was also one of the head writers for Evening Shade and would tell hilarious Burt Reynolds stories. He also worked for Designing Women. I loved him because he was quite forthcoming about his past and was very, very honest about what a cesspool full of jackals Hollywood was. Also, he was funny and brilliant.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 18:43:34

Unfortunately, I only know one Burt Reynolds story, and it’s really not that hilarious.

However, Phat B’s story is, and hearing it dissolves my last worn sinew of naivete.

Hell, James sounds far more jaded than I would have — before the dissolution of my last worn sinew of naivete, I mean.

 
 
 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 15:58:41

I toyed with writing (hardcore) porn at one point. I was offered a chance, and would’ve taken it, if only because of how “subversive” I considered such an idea, but the offer collapsed.

I was also offered a couple of opportunities to “act” in porn, but I was way too shy.

Comment by jonathan evison
2010-01-05 16:02:34

so, you’re telling us you DO have the equipment, right?

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Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 16:08:39

Whoa! One outing at a time!

 
 
Comment by James D. Irwin
2010-01-05 16:03:37

writing hardcore porn must be great fun.

It must be a sex-and innuendo fan’s wet dream…

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Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 16:12:44

Alas, I lack the experience to corroborate.

However, I’ve written softcore porn, and it was the same as filling out an online job application.

 
Comment by Gloria
2010-01-05 17:19:13

I once got a gig writing softcore porn, which also fell through, but as I was researching the mechanics of it, I discovered that it’s just a formula. Fill in the blank. Glad I didn’t do it.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 18:33:13

Unfortunately, I did. Fill in the blank, indeed.

 
 
Comment by sheree
2010-01-05 22:18:03

Every girl I went to jr high with could have been a porn star by 10th grade if we had only listened to the coked up, gold chain wearin’ chest hair barin’ scouts that came to our beach community from L.A every weekend seeking new talent. The 70’s was full of “movie” makers and “fashion” photographers. Heh.

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Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 22:22:58

And they weren’t even wearing hockey masks, those guys. Real-life monsters aren’t easily spotted, and sometimes they can’t even spot themselves.

 
Comment by sheree
2010-01-05 22:37:01

Trust me, it wasn’t hard to spot these friggen coked up losers. Shirts always half unbuttoned with pre-cum stains on their wrinkled skin tight silk pants, chewing gum like a bunnies eating carrots. Not an ounce of Jimeny Cricket in them.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 14:18:56

What a horrible (that is, really effective) description. Ugh. My brain now needs a shower.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Simon Smithson
2010-01-05 16:30:23

Great to see a new post from you, Duke - it’s been a while!

Wow, I can’t believe you offed yourself on Wikipedia. And I, like the rest, am going to have to go and watch the sleeping bag scene to see what it’s all about.

You ain’t no bum, sir. No bum, you.

Did you ever read If Chins Could Kill, the Bruce Campbell autobiography?

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 16:40:43

I have not. Did you ghost-write it? If so, can you arrange for Bruce to hang out with us when I hit Melbourne (he said, fingering his rosary)?

I did for a fact attempt suicide online. It isn’t, I should reaffirm, very effective, should you ever think to do the same, as I know you never will.

Yours –

The Bum

 
 
Comment by Sirje
2010-01-05 18:28:09

That was seedy and horrible and worth being ashamed about?

Maybe if you’re a super film insider but… you’re not that anyway. Just be crazy you. You’re awesome.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 18:31:49

Done deal. Made possible by your awesomeness. And craziness comes oh so naturally to me.

Comment by Sirje
2010-01-05 18:40:58

Well. Then it’s clearly the correct choice. Very good, very good.

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Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 18:51:26

The party begins in an hour.

 
 
 
 
Comment by N.L. Belardes
2010-01-05 19:34:21

This is a badass piece. My favorite yet.

Hey, I’m writing indie screenplays. Going to take a bigger role in this latest flick as I’m going to raise the money. Already have much of the team of filmmakers assembled.

Want a part in it? You’d be great!!

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 19:38:34

As Paul McCartney once sang: I’m down.

(I am just about to have a listen to your podcast with Mr. Matheny, by the way. And thanks for good word about the piece. Happy new year to you, my friend.)

Comment by N.L. Belardes
2010-01-05 19:48:22

Oh hell yeah!!! I am rewriting the treatment, then will write you into this script. Do you want to be a good guy or a bad guy? :D

I’m thinking good guy. But it’s your choice.

The same homies directing, filming, editing The Lackey will be making it with me. Same cool Red cameras too!

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Comment by N.L. Belardes
2010-01-05 19:49:22

Oh and happy New Year to you too. We talked about you today in my GSpot interview. Schweetness.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 19:52:08

I’ll click on the link in a sec. In the meantime: serendipity abounds. Look below to see who just appeared.

 
Comment by N.L. Belardes
2010-01-05 19:53:08

Yeah. I think he may have seen me tweeting this link. He’s observant like that.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 19:55:36

I’ll say!

Too bad, though, it wasn’t magic. I’m crushed.

 
Comment by N.L. Belardes
2010-01-05 20:10:53

Oh there was magic involved. I didn’t even actually touch my keyboard. I’m psychically connected to Twitter now. Oh, that’s tweetable…!

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 14:26:20

You know, Nick, I can imagine that about you. And I hope you did for a fact tweet that you’re psychically connected to Twitter — by psychic means, of course.

 
 
 
 
Comment by jmatheny
2010-01-05 19:46:58

So glad you did this. Now we can talk about your movie experiences on your next GSpot Podcast. w00t!

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 19:48:58

I did say it was forthcoming, yes?

Talk soon, Jack. It’s been a crazy day.

Sincerely,
Norman

 
 
Comment by jmatheny
2010-01-05 19:52:06

Norman,
Yeah, I got the space today. It’s a done deal if we want it.

-Jack

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 19:53:33

I dig it, Jack. Like, yeah. [sound of fingers snapping]

 
 
Comment by David Breithaupt
2010-01-05 20:22:36

I’m glad you didn’t turn out to be Brando.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 20:25:44

But, David, but in his early days, he was the most perfect actor ever.

(Good to hear from you! All the best in the new year!)

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 20:26:48

But — but — I tried to catch that extra “but” as I saw the message leaving, to no avail.

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Comment by Rachel Pollon
2010-01-05 20:37:58

So great! I feel liberated, you must, too! Really compelling and a great read. Woo hoo!

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 22:04:38

You, Rachel, are very classy.

 
 
Comment by Jeffrey Pillow
2010-01-05 22:16:21

Interesting backstory, Duke. Had no idea you had a hand in Friday the 13th. That, my friend, is pretty dag on cool. Your book (”Banned for Life”) is one of many here on The Nervous Breakdown I plan to digest in 2010. My only question is: are there any scenes that in some way incorporate one of the following: Black Flag, Bad Brains, Gorilla Biscuits.

Please say yes.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 22:31:44

Bad Brains comes up at one point, but I’m afraid I have to disappoint you on the other two accounts, though Chuck Dukowski of Black Flag was something of an inspiration in getting me started on the book. I’m of course grateful that you might want to take a gander at it. Meantime, I think it’s cool that you think it’s cool that I had something to do with one of those hockey-mask movies. It almost makes me feel cool.

Comment by Jeffrey Pillow
2010-01-05 23:07:05

If you were part of the team that constructed the Killer Klowns from Outer Space script then you are officially my idol. I made my wife watch that the other day with me. I believe at that moment she questioned why she gave her hand in marriage to me.

On the subject of punk, east coast punk in particular, you should check out Shower with Goats and Stick Figure Suicide. Both are now defunct. “I Eat You” by Shower with Goats. Great song. “Dred” by Stick Figure Suicide. Same.

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Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 23:34:48

You have stumped me, sir. I have heard of Stick Figure Suicide, but I never heard them.

Meanwhile, as I continue to disappoint you, I had nothing to do with Killer Klowns. However, I’ve been told that I resemble a killer, as well as a clown, though never both at once.

I like the idea of becoming officially someone’s idol, which has never happened before, so hopefully at some point I can hit on something. Thank you for planting such a suggestion in my head. I feel a sense of purpose now.

I don’t mean to sound sarcastic, if I do. I’m a weirdo in the humor department, as I no doubt am in others.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Kimberly
2010-01-05 22:40:23

Wow. Just… wow.

(or should I say ‘wow wow wow’?)

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 22:49:25

Wait. Are you obliquely referencing the song “Wow Wow Wow” by Girls Against Boys? Either way, I’m wowed by your wow.

Comment by Kimberly
2010-01-05 22:54:18

No. I was referencing the above comment thread about ‘wow’s and ‘zed’s.

I neither know the Girls Against Boys song, nor do I know (I openly confess) a single Friday franchise flick. (Horror’s not my genre.)

But I do loves me some good stories and the fine art of telling of them well, and sir, you are a Wowzer. :)

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Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-05 23:04:57

Well, I was forced to partake of the Friday franchise. Believe me, I wouldn’t have otherwise.

But Girls Against Boys — that’s a whole other story. They’re not a band that grabs you right away — not typically — but once they do, you’re done.

Just for the hell of it, here’s a clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cegExTD2hrs&feature=related

I can’t begin to say how flattered I am that you say what you do. You will promise me to have a great year, won’t you?

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-06 00:16:03

I thought maybe Kimberly was channelling Kate Bush for a second…

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 00:26:09

Well, I was definitely channeling Girls Against Boys. But don’t we all channel musicians at some point?

 
Comment by Zara Potts
2010-01-06 01:16:55

Oh yes. I AM Tom Petty.

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 13:42:18

Tom Petty never had it so good. He must be all: Damn, I’m fine!

 
 
 
 
Comment by Rich Ferguson
2010-01-06 09:08:14

Duke:

A masterfully told story, my friend. And the photos are great, as well. And speaking of photos, I recognized a woman in one of your Corman production shots. She’s a dear friend, one of the first people I met when I came to LA. Next time we see each other, remind me to tell you a story about what happened when I once stayed at her place, while she was in NYC, working with Spalding Gray.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 13:34:32

My God, Rich, you must be speaking of Anna. She knew Spalding. As a matter of fact, I stayed at Anna’s place for my first few weeks in L.A., sleeping on her dining-room floor. This was on Cheremoya, next to Beachwood, and Spalding’s girlfriend, Renee, came over at one point.

Small world. Yes, I can’t wait to hear your story. I’ve been thinking of Anna lately.

 
 
Comment by Robin Antalek
2010-01-06 11:39:34

After reading your piece and the comments I feel a little late to the dance here… you have experienced some amazing ( and not so amazing) moments and lived to write about them… And to think now I know who to blame for my fear of sleeping bags…
You just sold another book….

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 13:40:31

Oh, you can never be late to my dance parties. Yeah, I’m lucky to have survived — or maybe I’m just too mean to die.

But are you really afraid of sleeping bags? If so, and if that movie had anything to do with it, allow me to apologize. Maybe one day I can write something about a sleeping bag that, once occupied, flies or goes back in time or, you know, something magic and wonderful like that. That way I can make it up to all the sleeping bags whose feelings I inadvertently hurt.

Comment by Robin Antalek
2010-01-06 14:18:10

I am the biggest baby that ever lived when it comes to slasher movies. I think this can be traced back to the original Night of The Living Dead and the sound the flesh eating zombies made when they devoured the humans ( I recently discovered this was barbecued chicken they were noshing on) anyway - I watched that particular Friday the 13th on a dare - to prove what, you ask? I don’t even really remember… let’s just say I’m not a huge fan of camping either…. but I can’t blame that on you and that damn sleeping bag scene!

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Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 14:24:55

I was easily frightened by horror movies as a kid. Then I went through a phrase where they never seemed to frighten me — to my disappointment. I wouldn’t say I’m easily scared now, but I am grossed out by stuff that never used to bother me. Like blood-drinking, for instance. I had to watch a bunch of vampire movies once for a potential writing assignment, and I couldn’t believe how I’d wince every time a vampire went for somebody’s throat.

I think that particular Friday movie was pretty bad, but I have to admit to liking the telekinetic showdown at the end — do you by any chance remember any of that? I wouldn’t blame you if you didn’t, but, you know, I unfortunately did write it and all.

 
Comment by Robin Antalek
2010-01-06 14:49:56

Do not hide from the telekinetic showdown ( of course I remember it - I was all in by that point) or the movie… in the end a writing gig is a writing gig… plus, how many people can claim a slice of pop culture with such charm, wit and self-deprecation as you have?

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 15:00:28

Oh, gosh. Can I be, like, your best friend? I’ll give you candy!

 
 
 
 
Comment by Irene Zion
2010-01-06 14:28:13

Duke,

I tried to read this so many times, and life kept interrupting and making me put it off. Now I am the 217th person to comment, which is really embarrassing!

This is quite a story. I didn’t know any of this about you.

I think it is weird that you still look really handsome when you are in several pieces lying in a hospital bed.

I hope you got to keep that little strip of red at the bottom of your left eye. It’s really a conversation-starter! It’s WAY better than a scar.

Your book is brilliant. Sometimes it takes time for word-of-mouth to get around the country.

I’m so behind that I didn’t read your comments, which is not like me at all, but I’m overwhelmed by the sheer number. So excuse me if you have answered this already. Did they get the son-of-a-bitch that mowed you down? Did they kill him? If not, justice was not done, in my humble opinion.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 14:37:26

First, Irene, thanks for saying what you do about the book. I’m humbled. Also, I feel I owe you an apology for failing to comment on your last piece. I read it, and was about to comment, but something got in the way, I forget what, and then — well, you know how it can sometimes go.

Anyway, my eye went back to normal — and, by the way, I had a number of people comment at the time of the accident that I looked so much better than I did ordinarily. Strange. As for the guy who hit me, he did stop, and the accident was judged to be more my fault than his — a long story involving police reports, etc. — so nothing was ever done to him. I never saw his face. I just remember lying on the sidewalk as I heard him speaking to those gathered around me: “I didn’t see him, ha ha ha.” Yes, he laughed — but kind of hysterically. I don’t think he was happy to see me hurt by any means, least of all because he must have thought he was in trouble. And he never came to the hospital or called or wrote to me or anything like that — but I imagine lawyers were responsible. I don’t hold any grudges.

 
 
Comment by Irene Zion
2010-01-06 14:44:53

Duke,
Thanks for understanding my lateness. Life contains so many interruptions. Often you can’t do what you want to do because you have to do stuff you don’t want to do. (And you are ALWAYS forgiven anything, in my book.)

I am awed that you don’t hold grudges.
How do you do that?
I have been working and working on that but I can’t seem to get there.
It’s an aberrant flaw in my character.
Well-rooted, apparently.

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 14:58:40

Thanks, Irene.

I’m sure I do hold grudges in some cases, but not in this one, because I’m sure the guy didn’t mean to hurt me, just as I understand that he’d undoubtedly been advised not to get in touch with me, and so on. It’s a question of state of mind, you know? Even the law tries to take state of mind into account.

I do wonder if I ever occur to that guy, though. I’m sure, if I’d run someone down in a car, I’d continue to think of them. How could you not? But people are so different.

 
 
Comment by Debbie
2010-01-06 21:13:14

Now THIS is what I’ve been waiting all this time for….

Perfection. Sheer perfection.

xo

Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-06 21:19:43

Get out of here!

Comment by Debbie
2010-01-07 20:25:12

Fine…I take it all back…including all the nice things I said to you on the phone earlier. ;)
soo much love…..

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Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-07 21:06:20

I’m sorry!

 
Comment by Debbie
2010-01-08 10:30:34

Ugh…fine…you can have it all back. Make up your mind Haney!

Oh, speaking of what we spoke of….I’m meeting a lot of new people tonight, going to take the chance to sell more of your books. :) Wish me luck!

 
Comment by D.R. Haney
2010-01-08 21:37:09

I very obviously wish you luck. I wish me luck also, if I may.

 
Comment by Debbie
2010-01-08 23:38:28

You may. I always do…